Brewers Clarex / Liquid Yeast

[BrewDrew]

Thanks for the update.

I read on Whitelabs' Facebook Wall that theyre planning to sell it early April.

[blacklab]

Originally Posted by De-Geert

That's odd, since I think even raw barley does not have 5% of gluten.

Thanks for the info - where did you hear that?

Originally Posted by Baston8005

Did you do a retest?

Not yet, I just started drinking it. No issues so far. I'm going to make a less complex beer next time (100% organic 2 row) and hit it with the Clarex as a control.

[Baston8005]

Send me a 6 pack so I can test it out...

[De-Geert]

Originally Posted by blacklab

Thanks for the info - where did you hear that?

There is a scientific article, in which gluten levels of barley, malt and beers are shown. Barley ranges from about 2,2 to 3,2% of gluten per weight.
In the resulting beer the numbers are much lower (order of 5-40 mg per liter (ppm) so almost a 1000 fold lower.
If you found 5%, it cannot be correct, just from the fact that you dilute the malt with water.

The article is:
Immunochemical determination of gluten in malts and beers, by
Dostálek, P., Hochel, I., Méndez, E., Hernando, A. and Gabrovská, D. (2006)

http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/02652030600740637

[blacklab]

Originally Posted by De-Geert

There is a scientific article, in which gluten levels of barley, malt and beers are shown. Barley ranges from about 2,2 to 3,2% of gluten per weight.
In the resulting beer the numbers are much lower (order of 5-40 mg per liter (ppm) so almost a 1000 fold lower.
If you found 5%, it cannot be correct, just from the fact that you dilute the malt with water.

The article is:
Immunochemical determination of gluten in malts and beers, by
Dostálek, P., Hochel, I., Méndez, E., Hernando, A. and Gabrovská, D. (2006)

http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/02652030600740637

Hmm, agreed. My figures don't make sense based on the figures you provided. The ppm I am quoting is from the company that makes the gluten test I used.

I guess, for me, the bottom line is that I can drink the beer I've made with Clarex, with no Celiac reaction, given a few conditions:

-no wheat malt
-OG less than 1.060

thanks for the info.

[blacklab]

Originally Posted by Baston8005

Send me a 6 pack so I can test it out...

lulz-tastic.

[De-Geert]

Originally Posted by blacklab

I guess, for me, the bottom line is that I can drink the beer I've made with Clarex, with no Celiac reaction, given a few conditions:

Well, that's good news. Would you say you are very sensitive? I know this can vary greatly from one person to another.

[blacklab]

Originally Posted by De-Geert

Well, that's good news. Would you say you are very sensitive? I know this can vary greatly from one person to another.

I'm not all that sensitive. I have to watch it though.

[BrewDrew]

They start selling it 1 April.

[Monocoastal]

UPDATE: Just talked to DSM. 4/1 date is postponed (not a prank ;?), but is still imminent. WL wants to announce deal at the Craft Brewery Conference in Chi, 4/7, so DSM hopes to have a deal signed in the next couple of days.