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vtchuck · 03-03-2010, 01:43 PM

Mystery Ale
10-A American Pale Ale

Size: 5.28 gal
Efficiency: 75.0%
Attenuation: 75.0%
Calories: 193.18 kcal per 12.0 fl oz

Original Gravity: 1.058 (1.045 - 1.060)
Terminal Gravity: 1.014 (1.010 - 1.015)
Color: 11.16 (5.0 - 14.0)
Alcohol: 5.71% (4.5% - 6.2%)
Bitterness: 32.6 (30.0 - 45.0)

Ingredients:
9.0 lb Pale Ale Malt
0.25 lb Cara-Pils® Malt
0.5 lb American Caramel 30°L
2.0 lb Vienna Malt
2.0 oz Mystery Hop (leaf) (3.0%) - added during boil, boiled 60.0 min
1.0 oz Mystery Hop (leaf) (3.0%) - added during boil, boiled 30.0 min
0.5 oz Mystery Hop (leaf) (3.0%) - added during boil, boiled 15.0 min
0.5 oz Mystery Hop (leaf) (3.0%) - added during boil, boiled 5.0 min
1.0 ea Danstar 3767 Nottingham

Using my mystery hops. IBU's are a guess. Mash in at 8:05. 151 F

marzen41 · 03-03-2010, 01:50 PM

i was given a big bag of nops from a fellow homebrewer, heirloom hops i presume,as they were from a 19th century home of a major hop buyer when this was one of the major hop growing regions. i loved the beerrs they produced

Ó Flannagáin · 03-03-2010, 01:52 PM

Where did you acquire said "myster hop?"

vtchuck · 03-03-2010, 01:59 PM

I can trace them back to the mid-80's. Have not been able to identify them, but they may have morphed over the years in this climate.

What makes them unique is that they produce a prolific crop of large heavy cones.... doubling what my Cascades produce.

Central Vermont was also a hops growing area in the 1800's.

Ó Flannagáin · 03-03-2010, 02:14 PM

Ah, so they are wild? You find them near your house?

vtchuck · 03-03-2010, 02:58 PM

Purchased by a friend via mail order in the 80's

A couple of friends got cuttings and a few years ago, they gave the cuttings to
me. The original planting is gone.

The original grower doesn't remember the variety and thinks the source may have been an ad in The Farmers Almanac or Mother Earth News.

The age helps in narrowing down the choices as there were fewer varieties back then.

Rhoobarb · 03-03-2010, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtchuck

... or Mother Earth News.

Goddamned hippies.

vtchuck · 03-13-2010, 01:13 PM

and tasted a sample. Almost no hop smell.

Thought I might have picked up a citrus / grapefruit note,
but nowhere as strong as my homegrown Cascade.

Certainly not a noble hop. If anything its some American variety.

I might have a better idea when its cleared and carbed.

vtchuck · 03-26-2010, 09:38 PM

and for a beer with 4 oz. of hops it's pretty low key.

Balanced with very little hop aroma. Got some expert opinions
on what it might be, but no firm conclusions.

Thought it might be Brewers Gold, but the leading suspects

are now Cluster or Northern Brewer

salad 419 · 03-26-2010, 09:56 PM

I would have suspected Cluster. Especially since there's not a whole lot of anything going on with 4 oz. The other two would at least have some bitterness.

03-03-2010, 01:43 PM	#1
vtchuck Peck on the Head Brewery Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Peoples Republic of Vermont Posts: 727	Mystery Hop Ale Mystery Ale 10-A American Pale Ale Size: 5.28 gal Efficiency: 75.0% Attenuation: 75.0% Calories: 193.18 kcal per 12.0 fl oz Original Gravity: 1.058 (1.045 - 1.060) Terminal Gravity: 1.014 (1.010 - 1.015) Color: 11.16 (5.0 - 14.0) Alcohol: 5.71% (4.5% - 6.2%) Bitterness: 32.6 (30.0 - 45.0) Ingredients: 9.0 lb Pale Ale Malt 0.25 lb Cara-Pils® Malt 0.5 lb American Caramel 30°L 2.0 lb Vienna Malt 2.0 oz Mystery Hop (leaf) (3.0%) - added during boil, boiled 60.0 min 1.0 oz Mystery Hop (leaf) (3.0%) - added during boil, boiled 30.0 min 0.5 oz Mystery Hop (leaf) (3.0%) - added during boil, boiled 15.0 min 0.5 oz Mystery Hop (leaf) (3.0%) - added during boil, boiled 5.0 min 1.0 ea Danstar 3767 Nottingham Using my mystery hops. IBU's are a guess. Mash in at 8:05. 151 F __________________ "All this knowledge is giving me a raging brainer." - Professor Farnsworth Primary: My Favorite Marzen, Oktoberfaux Secondary:Pils In the Kegerators: Red Barn Ale, Brown Porter Next: Cream Ale Last edited by vtchuck; 03-03-2010 at 01:45 PM.

03-03-2010, 01:59 PM	#4
vtchuck Peck on the Head Brewery Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Peoples Republic of Vermont Posts: 727	Mine aren't that old I can trace them back to the mid-80's. Have not been able to identify them, but they may have morphed over the years in this climate. What makes them unique is that they produce a prolific crop of large heavy cones.... doubling what my Cascades produce. Central Vermont was also a hops growing area in the 1800's. __________________ "All this knowledge is giving me a raging brainer." - Professor Farnsworth Primary: My Favorite Marzen, Oktoberfaux Secondary:Pils In the Kegerators: Red Barn Ale, Brown Porter Next: Cream Ale

03-03-2010, 02:58 PM	#6
vtchuck Peck on the Head Brewery Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Peoples Republic of Vermont Posts: 727	Not Wild Purchased by a friend via mail order in the 80's A couple of friends got cuttings and a few years ago, they gave the cuttings to me. The original planting is gone. The original grower doesn't remember the variety and thinks the source may have been an ad in The Farmers Almanac or Mother Earth News. The age helps in narrowing down the choices as there were fewer varieties back then. __________________ "All this knowledge is giving me a raging brainer." - Professor Farnsworth Primary: My Favorite Marzen, Oktoberfaux Secondary:Pils In the Kegerators: Red Barn Ale, Brown Porter Next: Cream Ale

03-13-2010, 01:13 PM	#8
vtchuck Peck on the Head Brewery Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Peoples Republic of Vermont Posts: 727	Racked this brew to the secondary and tasted a sample. Almost no hop smell. Thought I might have picked up a citrus / grapefruit note, but nowhere as strong as my homegrown Cascade. Certainly not a noble hop. If anything its some American variety. I might have a better idea when its cleared and carbed. __________________ "All this knowledge is giving me a raging brainer." - Professor Farnsworth Primary: My Favorite Marzen, Oktoberfaux Secondary:Pils In the Kegerators: Red Barn Ale, Brown Porter Next: Cream Ale

03-26-2010, 09:38 PM	#9
vtchuck Peck on the Head Brewery Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Peoples Republic of Vermont Posts: 727	So this brew is on tap and for a beer with 4 oz. of hops it's pretty low key. Balanced with very little hop aroma. Got some expert opinions on what it might be, but no firm conclusions. Thought it might be Brewers Gold, but the leading suspects are now Cluster or Northern Brewer __________________ "All this knowledge is giving me a raging brainer." - Professor Farnsworth Primary: My Favorite Marzen, Oktoberfaux Secondary:Pils In the Kegerators: Red Barn Ale, Brown Porter Next: Cream Ale

03-03-2010, 01:50 PM	#2
marzen41 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Laurens,NY Posts: 576	i was given a big bag of nops from a fellow homebrewer, heirloom hops i presume,as they were from a 19th century home of a major hop buyer when this was one of the major hop growing regions. i loved the beerrs they produced

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