Mashing Rice - How?

[Aust1227]

Working on an American Lager (don't ask why!).. Would like to mash some rice into the mix. But I have never done it before. Anyone done it before? (Syrup isn't an option, all grain here)

Thanks,

[mr x]

You could always put the rice syrup in the kettle. But if you are using unflaked rice, you will have to gelatinize the rice first. I believe bringing it to a boil and them simmering for 1 hour should do the trick. Then dump the whole pot of rice and liquid into the mash.

Correction from my notes, can't remember the source:


mash rice/corn and small amount of 2-row to 158–160 °F for about 5 minutes, then boil for 30 minutes, then add to the main mash, watching the mash temperature

[MrMarbleHead]

And use 6 row malt, for the extra enzymes to help convert the rice. Most American lagers are all 6 row and rice/corn, IIRC.

IMO, I would use corn/flaked maize in place of the rice. As a very general guideline: Budweiser/bud light use rice. Miller/Pabst/Old Style use corn, as the main portion of their adjuncts. Or at least that is what i have read through the years on the internet. Personally i like the taste of Pabst or old style over that of Budweiser products, and i believe it is due to the use of corn instead of rice.

[mr x]

Yeah maybe use 6-row. Bud definitely does, but they probably use an insane amount of rice too:o. Or maybe they use syrup, I can't remember. When I was researching my project I was going to use 2 row, but that may not work if you have a high percentage of rice/corn. I wound up using flaked corn, so take my instructions with a grain of salt, but I believe that they are correct.

[Aust1227]

Thanks for the feedback. Thinking corn might be the way to go on attempt #1 at BMC..

it is a personal challenge to make a technically flawless beer (obviously my recipes and such can always be improved). I know my imperfections are hidden well in my IPAs, APAs, and bitters.. So, I need to see my flaws for what they are.. Only way to do that is a light american lager!!

[mr x]

I made a Labatts Blue clone using 1/3 flaked corn and 2/3 pilsner malt and it turned out very good.

[BlindLemonLars]

Every time we order in Chinese food at work (at least once a week) there are always 8-12 untouched containers of steamed white rice leftover, which just get tossed in the trash. I can't help but consider tossing them in a mash someday! Probably a sign of brewing addiction...

I use flaked corn in my summer blonde, easy to use and gives the desired results.

[marzen41]

there is a guy on hb.org that has a recipe for a cap that is supposed to be great

[wolf08gang]

I've used instant rice added directly to the mash with good results.