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Ronthered
01-09-2008, 12:58 AM
OG: no clue
FG: havent an idea
SRM:
IBU:
Fermentation Data:
Yeast: Montrachet
Base Malt:

First off I used Old Orchard Concord grape concentrate. You can find this at Walmart right next to the welches for about a buck a can. I used this one because it was the only one that had no preservatives I could find.

well to start I put one pound of corn sugar per gallon of must being made into a glass carboy
I have a one gallon pitcher I use to measure during brewing so I used it for this, I added three cans of concentrate and then topped off to one full gallon with filtered water. so thats three cans per gallon. and how ever much water it takes to make up one whole gallon including the concentrate.
very important if you want it sweet and less dry. add this to the carboy and mix until corn sugar is dissolved. do that for how ever many gallons your making. I made three gallons, so it was the gallon total volume with three pounds corn sugar and nine cans juice.
Add one crushed campden tablet per gallon of must cover air tight and let sit for at least 24 hours.
then I rehydrated the packet of Montrachet and added to carboy.
I also added one can of concentrate to the carboy after one and two weeks. you could also do this when you transfer to secondary if its not sweet enough for you, and continue to do so until it remains as sweet as you want it. I only added the two cans during the first two weeks of primary which left it plenty sweet. ( primary was a month long by the way )
other sites say that you dont need to age this type of wine, and i agree, mine only lost flavor over time(but was still good). it was most enjoyable once cleared though.
And be careful with this, it is a definite thong dropper. very much so has lots of alcohol.
one or two glasses and you will be feeling it.

I just ran out of this and plan to remake it very soon, everyone loves it when I bring it on my weekend trips to Chicago. I'm also going to try this same recipe only using white grape concentrate.

DrunkenSatyr
01-09-2008, 01:00 AM
Ahhhh Super high abv Grapefelwein. I may have to try this.

texcobb101
10-24-2008, 04:00 AM
After borrowing this recipe and having it happen it's new name here is Thong Droppin' Red. Thanks Ron.

Ronthered
10-24-2008, 10:57 AM
hell yes it's a panty dropper

Ó Flannagáin
10-24-2008, 02:12 PM
I think this could be the Apfelwein of HBC :D ... wonder how it would be kegged and carbed

Ronthered
10-24-2008, 03:02 PM
oh I dont know. it's kind of heavy and sweet, and lots of alcohol. could be danger on tap.

MrMarbleHead
10-24-2008, 03:15 PM
I think that DS aleady bestowed it with a great name, Grapefelwein. And so it shall be.

texcobb101
10-25-2008, 11:03 PM
Well what ever you want to call it, it just worked again.

Ó Flannagáin
10-25-2008, 11:07 PM
Well what ever you want to call it, it just worked again.

That's awesome.......

:k2::k2::k2::k2:

Ronthered
10-25-2008, 11:30 PM
ha ha, I am happy for you man.

MrMarbleHead
10-26-2008, 12:14 AM
That's awesome and only 7pm, man that is going to be a great night!

texcobb101
10-26-2008, 04:31 AM
That plus a hour and a half Phil's rain delay and now are up 4-1. Everything is right with the world.

Tankard
10-28-2008, 05:28 AM
I'm confused on a few parts of the process. I've bolded the areas where I'm lost. This looks like a great recipe.


"well to start I put one pound of corn sugar per gallon of must being made into a glass carboy
I have a one gallon pitcher I use to measure during brewing so I used it for this, I added three cans of concentrate and then topped off to one full gallon with filtered water. so thats three cans per gallon. and how ever much water it takes to make up one whole gallon including the concentrate.
very important if you want it sweet and less dry. add this to the carboy and mix until corn sugar is dissolved. do that for how ever many gallons your making. I made three gallons, so it was the gallon total volume with three pounds corn sugar and nine cans juice.
Add one crushed campden tablet per gallon of must cover air tight and let sit for at least 24 hours.
then I rehydrated the packet of Montrachet and added to carboy.
I also added one can of concentrate to the carboy after one and two weeks. you could also do this when you transfer to secondary if its not sweet enough for you, and continue to do so until it remains as sweet as you want it. I only added the two cans during the first two weeks of primary which left it plenty sweet. ( primary was a month long by the way )
other sites say that you dont need to age this type of wine, and i agree, mine only lost flavor over time(but was still good). it was most enjoyable once cleared though.
And be careful with this, it is a definite thong dropper. very much so has lots of alcohol.
one or two glasses and you will be feeling it.

I just ran out of this and plan to remake it very soon, everyone loves it when I bring it on my weekend trips to Chicago. I'm also going to try this same recipe only using white grape concentrate."

#1) What is this "of must" business?
#2) What one whole gallon including concentrate? Didn't you just say it was 3 cans per gallon?
#3) Do you mix this all together and THEN dump it into the carboy?

Ronthered
10-28-2008, 10:49 AM
sorry tank, Must is what it's called instead of wort. Call it what you want tho.
Yes 3 cans per gallon, But not 3 cans and then a gallon of water. I make it equal a gallon including the three cans of concentrate, so it's like really thick strong grape juice.
I mix it in a gallon size pitcher so I know I'm getting the right ratio, but if you figure out how much water it takes to top off the gallon first, then you can mix it all in the car boy, no big deal. .

MrMarbleHead
10-28-2008, 12:45 PM
For mine, i take and put all the concentrate in the carboy and then top up to five gallons in there. You can then either shake the piss out of it, or find something that fits down the neck of the carboy to stir it. I found that the white plastic spoons that a lot of us homebrewers have, when turned upside down, fits well.

Here is another write up for the same thing that i wrote up: WOP's Concord Grape Wine. (http://www.homebrewchatter.com/board/showthread.php?t=191)

BlindLemonLars
10-28-2008, 10:22 PM
Is there much krausen created with this recipe? One of the nice things about apfelwein, is that I can fill a 5 gallon carboy right to the very top, and not worry about blow-off.

Ronthered
10-28-2008, 10:23 PM
I don't really remember there being much. You might need some head space, but hell, If it blows you can add a blow off tube. Just catch it right away, this shit will stain

MrMarbleHead
10-29-2008, 03:35 PM
BLL, there is a very active fermentation, as you would imagine. but little to no krausen. I made a batch of mine one time and filled the primary all the way up into the neck about 1 inch below the stopper and since it had such little surcace area for the co2 to escape i got some minor blow off up into my airlock, luckly enought i keep a peice of cardboard on the floor of my closet where i ferment and it caught the small amount of wine that spilled out.

The biggest consideration on this when it comes to fermenting it is that it is a much higher OG then the standard apple wine recipe. So the fermentation is crazy on it. The OG on my first batch was 1.090, and fermented down to a .998.