View Full Version : What else do I need to finish my keezer?
Tankard
09-08-2008, 08:10 PM
I'm attaching the collar today. I put two coats of primer and two coats of paint on the boards, that should seal it up fine.
I already have the disconnects (not sure if they're the right size though), the corny keg, the ranco digital controller, but I still need the CO2 tank and the beer lines.
Am I forgetting anything from this list?
1 5# CO2 tank
6 feet of 5/16 gas line
5 feet of 3/16 beer line
5 1/8 to 1/2 adjustable worm clamps
5 1/4 to 7/8 adjustable worm clamps
1 Beer washer
1 Wing nut
1 3/16 tailpiece
1 Stainless Perlick Faucet
1 6x4 drip tray
1 Dual Body CO2 regulator (able to control two different kegs from one tank)
1 Regulator gauge cage
1 3 1/8 Shank (my collar is 1.5 inches thick, is this too long of a shank?)
I'm going so broke on this damn hobby. I'm sure I left some things out.
MrMarbleHead
09-08-2008, 08:13 PM
That all looks about right to me. The length of your shank shouldn't make a difference (except to your wife/girlfiend maybe, but we dont' really care) :p
You should take pictures because i am not sure what a "beer washer" is, and what is the wing nut for?
Tankard
09-08-2008, 08:16 PM
I think the beer washer goes into the end of the shank to keep it from dripping, the wing nut is to attach the shank to the beer line? hmmm, I'm not too sure about that either.
MrMarbleHead
09-08-2008, 08:25 PM
I gotcha on the beer washer, it's a black rubber washer right? yeah you need that so it doesn't leak. there should be one in the end of your faucet too. and one for the inside part of the shank.
I think i can picture your set up and it all sounds right to me. You will want a tap handle too ;)
Barley-Davidson
09-08-2008, 08:28 PM
You only need a dual regulator if your two kegs need different carbonation levels. If you're OK with rounding all your beers up or down to 2.5 volumes of co2 you can use a single regulator and split the gas line.
You might also want to start with more beer line - you can always cut it down but if it's too short you've got to reorder.
Barley-Davidson
09-08-2008, 08:29 PM
Also, you mention 2 kegs but only 1 faucet. Are you going to swap the fittings to change styles? That would work, I'm just asking.
Tankard
09-08-2008, 08:34 PM
I heard five feet of beer line is what's necessary to ensure non-foaming, is that not right?
Barley-Davidson
09-08-2008, 08:38 PM
5 seems a little short to me. Here's a decent page that tells how to balance your system (get ready to make with the math) http://hbd.org/clubs/franklin/public_html/docs/balance.html
My point is line's pretty cheap, and you can make it shorter but you can't make it longer.
Tankard
09-08-2008, 08:43 PM
Well, I have long term plans to do 2 kegs at a time, but I can always add another faucet later.
I'm still on the fence big time about whether I want to spend the extra money on a dual body regulator. Something about being able to serve a stout and a hefeweizen at the same time, with different levels of carbonation, really appeals to me.
Tankard
09-08-2008, 08:48 PM
5 seems a little short to me. Here's a decent page that tells how to balance your system (get ready to make with the math) http://hbd.org/clubs/franklin/public_html/docs/balance.html
My point is line's pretty cheap, and you can make it shorter but you can't make it longer.
Ughhh, I can't read that while at work. It'll stress me out even more.
Maybe I should just stick to bottling, lol.
Tankard
09-08-2008, 08:51 PM
Can't I just use a standard length of hose and then adjust the PSI on the tank? That website leads me to believe that I need a seperate length of hose for every beer style.
Barley-Davidson
09-08-2008, 09:08 PM
Lots of people lower their pressure for serving. My regulator is buried behind the kegs, so for me that would be a real PITA.
You could also get a secondary regulator to mount inside the keezer.
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:EXKccHmj5B0RvM:http://www.micromatic.com/images/3/300x300/83215.jpg
MrMarbleHead
09-09-2008, 03:23 PM
Real simple solution to the beer line length, "Flow Gate" (http://www.homebrewchatter.com/board/showpost.php?p=16117&postcount=23)
I am making a note to go home and put up a "how to" make these (w/pictures), a friend found out though that you dont want to keep the keg at 20 psi too long, because after awhile it will over carb your beer, but if you crank it up to about 12-15 psi you will be alright and you don't need to worry about line length.
Tankard
09-09-2008, 08:16 PM
That looks awesome. Is it easy to build?
MrMarbleHead
09-10-2008, 01:13 AM
Oh yeah super easy to build, after I put my 2 year old to bed tonight i will get the pictures up on here.....stay tuned.
mdd134
09-10-2008, 09:46 PM
I use all 10 foot beer lines and it seems to work well for me, I keep the pressure at 12psi. the "Flow Gate" (http://www.homebrewchatter.com/board/showpost.php?p=16117&postcount=23) are also a great idea.
Redweasel
09-11-2008, 04:12 AM
I use all 10 foot beer lines and it seems to work well for me, I keep the pressure at 12psi. the "Flow Gate" (http://www.homebrewchatter.com/board/showpost.php?p=16117&postcount=23) are also a great idea.
+1 had big problems with foam until i switched to 10' lines. Problem solved.
sanders5x
09-11-2008, 04:23 AM
here is an idea worth considering, I have one sinlgle body regulator on my CO2 tank and another one inside my Kegorator. single gang co2 regulators are easy to find on ebay. I have my regulator on my tank set at about 20 psi and the one mounted in my kegoraotor set at about 10-12 psi. Most regulators have a feed through so you can get 2 diffrent psi settings in the kegorator. I even use the 20 psi for soda although its a bit under carbed. the 20 psi also works good for karbonating beer. and seeling kegs. some regulators emven haf mounting brackest on the balck side so you kean mount it to the back of the kewling device. dont drill threw a refer line or you got a very bige paver weate. the froste draine ei thing works the vest for running c02. I yused to ahve some fotos of my kesgorators on here. i try do phind them and phut them up
Redweasel
09-11-2008, 04:44 AM
here is an idea worth considering, I have one sinlgle body regulator on my CO2 tank and another one inside my Kegorator. single gang co2 regulators are easy to find on ebay. I have my regulator on my tank set at about 20 psi and the one mounted in my kegoraotor set at about 10-12 psi. Most regulators have a feed through so you can get 2 diffrent psi settings in the kegorator. I even use the 20 psi for soda although its a bit under carbed. the 20 psi also works good for karbonating beer. and seeling kegs. some regulators emven haf mounting brackest on the balck side so you kean mount it to the back of the kewling device. dont drill threw a refer line or you got a very bige paver weate. the froste draine ei thing works the vest for running c02. I yused to ahve some fotos of my kesgorators on here. i try do phind them and phut them up
Ah, drunken yet informative.:k:
Tankard
09-11-2008, 05:48 AM
Hahaha, it got worse towards the end, as he kept drinking.
Thanks for the advice sanders. I may look into doing that.
sanders5x
09-12-2008, 05:29 PM
here is an idea worth considering, I have one sinlgle body regulator on my CO2 tank and another one inside my Kegorator. single gang co2 regulators are easy to find on ebay. I have my regulator on my tank set at about 20 psi and the one mounted in my kegoraotor set at about 10-12 psi. Most regulators have a feed through so you can get 2 diffrent psi settings in the kegorator. I even use the 20 psi for soda although its a bit under carbed. the 20 psi also works good for karbonating beer. and seeling kegs. some regulators emven haf mounting brackest on the balck side so you kean mount it to the back of the kewling device. dont drill threw a refer line or you got a very bige paver weate. the froste draine ei thing works the vest for running c02. I yused to ahve some fotos of my kesgorators on here. i try do phind them and phut them up
lol, was a little under the influence when I posted that, oh well.
Tankard
09-12-2008, 06:13 PM
It's cool man, drunk posts are always funny. We need more of them 'round here :)
Redweasel
09-13-2008, 05:29 AM
Oh really? Time to get clobbered.
Tankard
09-13-2008, 06:11 AM
Have fun :)
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